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Viewpoints: Does God Punish His Children?

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This question originally came in as an Ask A Religious Scientist, but we decided to include more viewpoints in hopes of prompting dialogue with FāVS readers.

Do you believe that God punishes us ,or curses us, if we sin?

Joe and Toni Niemiec: Religious Science

Rev. Joe Niemiec Jr.

“We believe in God, the living Spirit Almighty; one, indestructible, absolute, and self-existent Cause. This One manifests Itself in and through all creation, but is not absorbed by Its creation. The manifest universe is the body of God; it is the logical and necessary outcome of the infinite self-knowingness of God.” Ernest Holmes, excerpt from “What I Believe”

We do not believe in a vengeful God. We do believe in a God of Love, Creator of the Universe and all that is. We do not believe in an “entity” called God, rather it is an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent creative power which lives, moves, and has Its being in all Its creation (but is not absorbed by its creation.)

 We do not believe in either sin nor evil as an entity. Sin is “off the mark” or mistake which natural consequences seem like punishment (karma, cause and effect). Evil is not an entity but rather an action by an individual and/or group of people, and they in turn pay the natural consequences for their actions (i.e: the actions of Hitler and those following his orders were evil actions, there is no entity that made them do it.) 

We believe that we are given free will over the choices of our lives and that our choices have consequences (cause and effect.) What many would call punishment executed from a separate “God” or deity we see as natural consequences to our actions. Often what others may see as a “curse” is our own shame through which we inflict suffering on ourselves.

Nicholas Damascus: Eastern Orthodox

Nick Damascus

From the Orthodox Christian perspective, God is everywhere, present and fills all things. According to the Scriptures His mercy and grace forever and always rains on the just and the unjust. Depending on our state, attitude, or response to this ever present rain (love) this love will either deify us or burn us.

What I mean to say is that either this love will enhance our love for one another and God or this same love will torment us, perceived as being punishment when we live a life contrary to love, that being a life of self-centeredness and sin.

There are consequences for our actions, most often are self-inflicted punishment, but we try to blame others or God for what we are experiencing. So if we are created in the image of God (love) and are designed to love and be loved, why do we continue to put diesel in a car that is designed to run on gas and then point the finger at the Designer or Creator because we didn’t follow the directions?

Readers, what do you say? Join the conversation by commenting below, or at the FāVS Members Forum!

Joe Niemiec

About Joe Niemiec

The Rev. Joe Niemiec Jr. began his spiritual quest in 1986 when he walked out of a Houston jail and was struck by the realization that his life was in shambles.

He began his quest for ‘getting back on track’ with 12 step programs, followed by learning and practicing meditation with a local Redding, California, teacher.

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Toni Niemiec

About Toni Niemiec

Walking the spiritual path has been part of the Rev. Toni Niemiec's life as long as she can remember. She said as a child she was not raised in a “traditional” religion.

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Nicholas Damascus

About Nicholas Damascus

Nick Damascus is one who seeks to discover and apply the proverbial question of what is truth and wisdom, to fill that gaping hole, to become complete and to become realistically and synergistically functional. In an attempt to live the Christian life, which he says is a definite work in progress, he has discovered that he's created the Christ that fits his lifestyle and agrees with his ego (and boy what an ego, he says), carefully avoiding what God intended him to be.

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