The Christian blogosphere’s been busy

The Christian blogosphere has been busy these last few days, as one of us after another has weighed in on Ross Douthat’s New York Times Article, “Can Liberal Christianity be Saved?” Some of the reflections have been insightful — see, in particular, Diana Butler Bass’ argument that Douthat has misread the data and, thereby, incorrectly confined a broad decline in American Christianity to certain denominations. And some of the reflections have been self-congratulatory — while, as an Episcopalian, I am a member of what Douthat identifies as a liberal tradition, I am seriously ill at ease with anyone arguing that the Episcopal church is populated with prophets.

Two questions come to my mind as I listen to this debate. My first question is this: when we say “liberal” or “conservative,” what do we mean? These days, there is something like a binary test to sort folks into the liberal or conservative camps — your position on gay marriage quickly deposits you either with the goats or the sheep. (Given that the catalyst for Douthat’s article was the Episcopal Church’s General Convention and, in particular, its decision to affirm a rite for blessing same-gender unions, I am guessing this is more or less the test which he is employing). My experience is that actual Christians are considerably more nuanced than this binary allows. Categories such as “liberal” and “conservative,” therefore, prematurely end conversations — they are shorthand which allows us to quickly categorize another person and, thereby, to avoid the effort of genuinely listening to her. When we choose to do the hard work of listening, our categories are frequently confounded.

What are we to make, for instance, of the self-identified liberal who believes abortion to be unethical some or all of the time? Is being unreservedly pro-choice the prerequisite for buying a ticket to the lefty dance? Similarly, what shall we do with the self-identified conservative who argues in favor of arts funding or against perpetuating war for reasons of profit (see fine reflections on both of these subjects by my colleague, Eric Blauer). God’s people are more complicated — more messy, if you like — than our categories allow.

It is this messiness which brings me to my second question: what does our own witness teach us? (Let me cheerfully confess, here, that one of things which draws me to Jesus is that I am a lot more interested in stories than in statistics). I didn’t grow up going to church, and you’ll find many of my friends and family at home on a Sunday morning to this day. One of the big reasons I stayed away (and one of the reasons that the people whom I love tell me that they stay away still) is that I assumed that the church, by its very definition, was on the wrong side of the major moral issues of our time; that it was in the business of preserving privilege while neglecting the least of these, our brothers and sisters. It is not an exaggeration to say that I was both flabbergasted and delighted when the Diocese of New Westminster, in Vancouver, BC, publicly announced its support for same-gender blessings and, around the same time, declared that BC’s referendum to limit the parameters of the native treaty process was a racist exercise. To put it plainly, I found an open door to becoming a Christian when I encountered what Douthat calls a liberal church. And I know from speaking with other adult converts that my experience is not unique. Thanks be to God that the Gospel is proclaimed in conservative and liberal contexts alike; that the spirit is moving in such a breadth of communities of faith.

Christians from a broad range of politics and theologies have much to teach to one another. I am immensely enriched every time I say “yes” to seriously listening to someone who pushes the boundaries of my understanding of who God is and where God is at work in the world. What a privilege to put away categories such as liberal and conservative for an hour or two and, instead, to pick up a cup of coffee with someone whose practices and whose understanding of the divine is different than my own. I always learn so much over that cup of coffee. I like to think that the person with whom I share that fleeting time feels the same way.

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Don Grayston

Martin, hola! Great blog! I am become a connoisseur of such things, having started my own blog this week [ 🙂 ]. It may interest you to know that Thomas Merton, whose last years coincided with Vatican II and its immediate aftermath, resolutely refused to be categorized as either a liberal or conservative, although both sides in his church wanted to sign him up. He preferred to say that, if a label were necessary at all, he wanted to be a radical, i.e., someone who went to the radix, the root, of any issue. Blessings!


Ditto, great blog. The name of Christian should transcend conservative or liberal. We need to listen to each other instead of labeling each other.

Eric Blauer

I agree that labels are more often than not, misapplied or fail to fairly describe the multifaceted nature of the person being labeled. But I am becoming more and more disenfranchised by the failure of clarity to be found among spheres where clarity is needed.

A Political Example:
President Obama ran as a “peace” President but has been just as warmongering and more, as President Bush. His ability to chameleon around and choose to be anything, everything and nothing has led to a War President becoming a recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize!

If we remove truthful categories, how does anyone know anything these days? Sitting down for coffee is an option for a few local instances but in reality we need people to mean what they say, claim what they value and articulate a path that one can follow.

I’m tired of the unwillingness of many to stand clear, bold and unashamed for fear of being lumped into someone’s interpretation of this or that label. If one is an independent or moderate, Switzerland type of person, than embrace it, celebrate your moderate position but recognize that in politics, religion or choosing which restaurant…it’s still a label.


In my view, the problem isn’t taking the time to sit down for coffee. It’s the ability to listen, hear, and understand another viewpoint.

Matt 5:41 If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. (NIV)

It’s the humility to realize that I don’t always have all the answers.

Eph 4:2 Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.

Ernesto Tinajero

I think that the narrowing of the world to current political topics means nothing in terms of core living as a Christian. Many evangelicals, though politically conservative as theological wild. In fact many of them have changed to content of the faith so dramatically as to make the farthest Liberation Theologian blush, all the while turning Jesus into a money-making marketing idea or a messiah of the free markets. We have become to accustom to think like Manichean that is in binaries of them and us.

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