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Gun violence in a Christian country

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Wayne LaPierre at a political conference in Orlando, Florida. Credit: Gage Skidmore/Wikpedia

G.K. Chesterton taught me that lust is more powerful than reason. A human, committed to the dark desires of his heart, will trump those who call for rational sanity.  This truth was again show by the NRA’s Wayne Lapierre news conference in response to the horror of Newtown. A blood color moon of doom rose on my spirit as I listen to him. I have been active around the issue of guns since Columbine. Then, I had seen gun fanatics shout down parents of Columbine victims with taunts. If only he, the parent, had armed (illegally) his 16-year-old child with a gun, then all would be well and only the killers be dead. Then, I witness a nation in shock and mourning do nothing about our crazy gun laws that turns us into shooting gallery of innocents. Now, weapons of such destruction, if anything, are more readily available. Gun laws have been so relaxed that any self-respecting drug dealer will be armed better than the George Washington’s Revolutionary Army.

I saw in horror as the NRA sponsored gun laws like Florida’s Stand Your Ground law or Indiana’s Cop Killing law are making it easier to get away with murder. The NRA by 2006 made sure to cut off the head of the ATF by sneaking a provision that the top cop for guns had to be approved by the Senate, where the NRA's allies could filibuster any nomination. The legislator that did this damage was, of course the NRA’s legislator of the year. America has lacked a top gun cop since. So, tuning in to the NRA’s response to Sandy Hook, I knew what to expect.

It was not surprising. The NRA blamed the media and video games, and their supporters drank the drug without so much as a glance into the mirror of self-reflection. Lapierre coined the phrase, “only a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun.”  He did not even bat a eye in the direction of the obvious. The video games and movies he had just trashed actually play out “good guys with guns taking out bad guys” lust tale he was now lauding. He was selling the same fantasy that drives the video games and movies only without the realistic graphics. He was selling the same Devils brew of Manichaeism. Eric and Dylan saw themselves as the good guys taking out the bad guys. So did most of the mass murders of the last 15 years.

But, not one to let self-reflection or honesty get in the way, Lapierre offered his solution to the flood of guns: more guns. I knew at that point he had won. There will be no meaningful action to the gun violence.  The dark fantasies that imagines our nearly 240-year democracy was about to descend into a dictatorship and only the brave gun owners of America could stop it, like they stop the Imperial Armies of Japan from invading, could have stop Hitler, was working on the weakness on men’s lust. Like Jerry Sandusky, he gave them a justification for their lust.

The innocent children that were brutally gunned down at Sandy Hook will join the teenagers at Columbine and the college victims of Virginia Tech, sacrifices to the weird power of gun lust and the bottom line of gun makers. Last week President Obama introduced the best he could do with 23 modest presidential orders and calls, really, for such things as scientific research into gun violence. (The NRA used its minions in congress to dry up research when it was found that guns in the home made the home dramatically less safe than having no guns. Truth, when you are in the death business, is bad for business). He was greeted with calls that he was a tyrant and a criminal and calls for his impeachment as if trying to keep the guns out of bad guys’ hands was somehow a crime against the constitution.  Websites put up pictures of Hitler and Stalin next to Obama’s modest actions to pound home the point that any rational thinking was going to shot down like first graders in Connecticut.  Assault weapons have two forces behind them. The force of those making a arsenal of money and the lust of those wanting the assault weapons for a personal, erotic and power fantasies. The NRA knows this and has a template for stoking these two fires. The biggest disappointment, though, is how many Christians have swallowed this line of unchristian death message. We Christians know that there is only one good guy and that good guy stops the bad guys not with a gun, but with a cross. Until we Christians can answer with the cross instead of an AR-15, we will continue to bury the dead.

Topics: Culture, Social Issues
Beliefs: Christian - Protestant/Other
Tags: christians and guns, gun control, gun control and children, gun control and mass shootings, guns, nra, nra and sandy hook, obama and gun control, obama and nra, wayne lapierre

Comments

  1. My problem with “good guys with guns taking out he bad guys” is it completely bypasses the court system for determining good and bad which humanity has painstakingly developed over three thousands years.  It’s like saying i can figure out who’s good and who’s bad in the milliseconds it takes to fire a gun.  Playing god, anyone?  Whatever happened to the Christian doctrine that “all are bad and have fallen away from God”?  Who are the good guys according to Christian doctrine?  I thought there was “no one righteous, not even one?”  I agree that the only way to stop evil is at the cross.  But I hardly hear that message from Christians these days.

  2. I listened to a very calm, rational interview on a youtube clip yesterday entitled “Obama to top brass: Will you fire on American citizens?”.  The man being interviewed claims to have been informed by a top military general that a litmus test is being applied to top brass military asking that hypothetical question with regard to citizens refusal to allow seizure of their weapons.  Earnesto, I’ve read all your gun related articles on this site and you continue to pound away at your particular view of the subject.  There are other views besides Christians who believe in gun rights being “filled with gun lust”.  Are the gun manufacturers making money?  Yes.  It’s a (semi) free market economy we have and no one is forcing anyone to buy any guns.  You play god by thinking you know the motives of everyone involved.  Much of it is driven by fear of our president who has told so many lies since he’s been in office that we’ve lost count.  Now that he’s been re-elected he has thrown off much of his supposed reasonableness and is much more dictatorial in his demeanor.  Check out the clip and then let us know what you think.

  3. An old saying reminds me “What you take in your hand, you take into your heart.”

  4. My problem with “good guys with guns taking out he bad guys” is it completely bypasses the court system for determining good and bad which humanity has painstakingly developed over three thousands years.  It’s like saying i can figure out who’s good and who’s bad in the milliseconds it takes to fire a gun.  Whatever happened to the Christian doctrine that “all are bad and have fallen away from God”?  Who are the good guys according to Christian doctrine?  I thought there was “no one righteous, not even one?”  Playing god, anyone?

  5. Anyone take the time to listen to the clip? Anyone care? And on the comment about being unable to determine who are the good and who are the bad, if someone kicks in my door at night it’s pretty much a no-brainer.  He’s proven himself evil at that point and I would be cowardly not to protect my family.  If you think that’s just a hypothetical you aren’t reading the news much.  Those Christian doctrines you speak of Bruce, are, in context, referring to man’s condition before a holy God and why he needs salvation through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, not doctrines about self-defense.

  6. Dennis,

    I did listen to it. Here is Snopes take: http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/citizens.asp If you think that a band of guys armed with semi-auto guns would be able to stop a despotic US military you have no clue of American firepower. And yes I have been to gun shows and I know lust when i see.

    I know you are a faithful man, so you must know that only a good guy on a cross can answer the bad in us all. IF you accept this basic point of the Gospel, then you must reject the Manichean claims of the NRA of only good guys with guns can stop bad guys with guns. For according to Paul, only Jesus is a Good guy. There is no middle ground. If you accept the New testament, you must reject the NRA.

  7. The language you use to describe those who differ in viewpoints than yourself makes me pause in thinking about your position:

    “A human, committed to the dark desires of his heart, will trump those who call for rational sanity.”

    “gun fanatics”

    “Their supporters drank the drug without so much as a glance into the mirror of self-reflection.”

    “The lust of those wanting the assault weapons for a personal, erotic and power fantasies.”

    These charactheristics don’t describe the many people I have had conversations with and I wish these matters could be debated without demonizing the other.

    Imagine such language being used to describe those who support abortion? Oh the outcry that would ensue if such inflammatory words were used to describe pro-choice or pro-gay people? We could look at the numbers of aborted children up against the numbers of assualt rifle deaths and talk about all the things you mention too. But such paths would just lead to more gas on the fire.

    I am not sure why this issue brings this side out of you Ernesto, I am sure there’s a story there somewhere, I hope we can find alternative ways to challenge one another’s ideas.

  8. Eric,

    I am sure most of your friends were applaud when Drudge report published pictures of Hitler and Stalin under the headline that the Obama was taking away people’s guns over his modest 23 proposals. I am sure you would have been applaud when Tim Mauser was taunted about his son death at Columbine. (I saw this live, it made me sick to my stomach as it would any human with a heart) His crime, calling for very limited gun control. His son died violently and he then had to deal with death threats from gun advocates, because he called for a ban on semi-auto weapons. I am sure you were applaud when James Yeager started to talk about shooting people if the government tried to take his guns. I am sure your were applaud when the NRA made the ATF a senate approved appointment and then made sure no would hold that job since 2006 through allies threatening to filibuster any appointment. I am sure you were applaud that we have the largest murder rate in the western world. Evil thrives when good people close their eyes.

    Eric, do you at least question your position when a woman who held identical beliefs was found dead at the hand of her son. A son that just laid waste to 20 first graders, some having 11 bullets in them. He did this damage in ten minutes. The God you and I follow gave St Paul the inspiration to write that we know one by their fruit. Look at fruit of NRA and it is not one of joy or peace or anything that we could see as Gospel.

  9. Ernesto, I’d still like to hear your take on the idea the the Obama administration is purging the military of those soldiers who will not fire on US citizens during the confiscation of weapons.  Forget whether or not resistance would be successful or not, don’t you have an opinion of why a US president who is supposed to love this country and its people would do such a thing?  Does that just blow right past you so you can rant against gun owners?

    I don’t belong to the NRA, never have, and don’t necessarily agree with everything they have to say, I try to make up my own mind based on God’s truth and how He leads me as I study and pray about what my actions and priorities should be.  The only time I really spend on this issue is here on this site.  I lead a fundamentals of the faith class, attend a bible study methods class, and practice with our worship team on Thursdays.  I don’t have time for much else and I’m very thankful for every one of those things, they, as my loving service to Christ, are my priorities.  I don’t have time to do much shooting, but I enjoy doing it when I can, and don’t have a lust for it. 

    If Obama’s brown shirts come pounding on my door to confiscate my legally owned weapons I’ll probably hand them over, but that will make him the evil one not me.  I do not respect or even like Obama and most of his regime and in my opinion his evil and tyranny will accelerate in the next few years.  When those times arrive, Ernesto, just remember our conversations.  Hopefully you won’t try to justify it then, too.

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